25: Scott Lively, #1 on LGBT Lobby's "Enemies List"

In this podcast, Robert Oscar Lopez interviews Scotty Lively, who was ranked the #1 global enemy of the Human Rights Campaign in 2014 (Lopez was ranked #2.) These two titans of the mythical "anti-gay" exporting ring talk about the balance between religious and secular arguments, as well as where Lively's trial for "crimes against humanity" stands.